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Thirteenth in a series of posts celebrating 200 years of Jane Austen’s Mansfield Park. For more details, open Your Invitation to Mansfield Park.
“I said, ‘Mansfield Park is my least favorite, and I dislike it because I dislike Fanny Price. She’s too much like me. She’s boring.”
This is the person I’m going to marry, George thought.
If you’ve read Deborah Yaffe’s book Among the Janeites, you’ll recognize this description of the first time Devoney Looser and George Justice met. They’ve now been married for eighteen years, during which time they’ve given many joint presentations on Jane Austen. This past spring they also taught a class on Austen together at Arizona State University. Devoney wrote a guest post for my Mansfield Park series on “Rears and Vices” a few weeks ago, which prompted “a great deal of conversation” (to borrow Anne Elliot’s phrase), and today I’m happy to introduce George’s post on Mrs. Norris.
It had never occurred to me to defend Mrs. Norris, one of the Austen characters readers love to hate. Adelle Waldman recently voted for her as the “greatest fictional character of all time,” because “What makes her so brilliant – and so chilling – is that her brand of malevolence is so ordinary; she really has no idea that she’s a monster.”
But when I mentioned to George the other day that we haven’t talked about Mrs. Norris very much so far in “An Invitation to Mansfield Park,” he immediately started writing about her. I’m very interested to hear what you think about his analysis of her character.
George Justice is Dean of Humanities in the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences and Associate Vice President for Humanities and Arts in the Office of Knowledge Enterprise Development at Arizona State University. A specialist in eighteenth-century British literature, he’s the author and editor of scholarship on the literary marketplace, authorship, and women’s writing. Most recently, he edited Jane Austen’s Emma for the Norton Critical Editions series. Prior to going to ASU, he taught at the University of Pennsylvania, Marquette University, Louisiana State University, and the University of Missouri, where he also served as Vice Provost for Advanced Studies and Dean of the Graduate School.
In a recent blog entry in The Paris Review, Tara Isabella Burton “defends” the heroine of Mansfield Park by declaring her a victim of an unjust system: “Fanny isn’t moral or upright because she wants to be, but because the role—along with a whole host of so-called middle-class values—is forced upon her. For all we know, she may well wish to be as carefree, as filled with dynamic sprezzatura, as [Emma] Woodhouse or Elizabeth Bennet, Austen’s more fortunate heroines….”
With a “defense” like that, who needs enemies? I would happily praise Fanny Price on grounds familiar to those of us who really understand, but I’d be preaching to the converted. We lovers of Fanny Price don’t need it. We already know we love her, we know why we love her, and we share contempt for those too stupid to understand.
Instead, I here take on a more difficult task: defending Mrs. Norris. A quick Google search reveals a paucity of champions for Mrs. Norris, who is perhaps the most hated of any of Austen’s characters. (Hated, but enjoyed from the novel’s first publication as Austen’s notes on her friends’ and family’s responses make clear.) In a novel with unclear heroes and heroines, Mrs. Norris is—or would seem to be—an unambiguous villain. She is mean-spirited, self-serving, erroneous, obsequious: fully hideous.
“I was just going to say the very same thing,” said Mrs. Norris. “If every play is to be objected to, you will act nothing—and the preparations will be all so much money thrown away—and I am sure that would be a discredit to us all. I do not know the play; but, as Maria says, if there is any thing a little too warm (and it is so with most of them) it can be easily left out.—We must not be over precise Edmund. As Mr. Rushworth is to act too, there can be no harm.—I only wish Tom had known his own mind when the carpenters began, for there was the loss of a half a day’s work about those side-doors.—The curtain will be a good job, however. The maids do their work very well, and I think we shall be able to send back some dozens of the rings.—There is no occasion to put them so very close together. I am of some use I hope in preventing waste and making the most of things. There should always be one steady head to superintend so many young ones. I forgot to tell Tom of something that happened to me this very day.—I had been looking about me in the poultry yard, and was just coming out, when who should I see but Dick Jackson making up to the servants’ hall door with two bits of deal board in his hand, bringing them to father, you may be sure; mother had chanced to send him of a message to father, and then father had bid him bring up them two bits of board, for he could not no how do without them. I knew what all this meant, for the servants’ dinner bell was ringing at the very moment over our heads, and as I hate such encroaching people, (the Jacksons are very encroaching, I have always said so,—just the sort of people to get all they can.) I said to the boy directly—(a great lubberly fellow of ten years old you know, who ought to be ashamed of himself,) I’ll take the boards to your father Dick; so get you home again as fast as you can.—The boy looked very silly and turned away without offering a word, for I believe I might speak up pretty sharp; and I dare say it will cure him of coming marauding around the house for one while,—I hate such greediness—so good as your father is to the family, employing the man all year round!”
– From Mansfield Park, Chapter 15 (New York: Norton, 1998)
This passage exemplifies a number of Mrs. Norris’s traits, most notably her self-identified frugality, the small-mindedness of which interferes with her professed identification with the family’s real interest. Calling a halt to the theatrical proceedings would result in “so much money thrown away.” She moves from a self-aggrandizing declaration that she would be the “steady hand to superintend so many young ones” to exemplifying that steadiness with a hypocritical anecdote about a local family whose greediness and encroaching nature must be stopped by the selfless hard work of Mrs. Norris herself, whose “triumph” over the ten-year-old Dick Jackson was important enough to her for her to relate it again over dinner. (Contrast this to the “triumph” over Mrs. Norris that Fanny avoids projecting when Sir Thomas orders her a carriage to take her to dinner at the Grants’ over Mrs. Norris’s objections).
Was Mrs. Norris born bad? Made bad by circumstances? Taking morality out of our assessment (something required by the critics who profess to disdain Fanny Price) what can we say in favor of Mrs. Norris?
We learn in the first paragraph of the novel that Mrs. Norris was the older sister of Lady Bertram and, subject to the marriage market of her time, had to watch her younger sister marry first (and marry well) and eventually find “herself obliged to be attached to the Rev. Mr. Norris, a friend of her brother-in-law.” The double passive of “found herself obliged” and “to be attached” signals the novel’s latent sympathy with the character. Mrs. Norris is characterized both explicitly and in the action of the novel as having a “spirit of activity.” Therefore, being put in the position of being acted upon in the single most important life moment that society imposed on young women of her social class—marriage—is not a punishment of her but the signal moment shaping the narrative of Mrs. Norris’s life. Mrs. Norris is female activity repressed by patriarchal society.
There would have been plenty of work to do for the active spouse of a clergyman in the Church of England, the most important of which, perhaps, would have been raising children. Mrs. Norris is dealt another blow by life:
Having married on a narrower income than she had been used to look forward to, she had, from the first, fancied a very strict line of economy necessary; and what was begun as a matter of prudence, soon grew into a matter of choice, as an object of that needful solicitude, which there were no children to supply. Had there been a family to provide for, Mrs. Norris might never have saved her money; but having no care of that kind, there was nothing to impede her frugality…. (Chapter 1)
So when we get to Mrs. Norris’s ill-judged encouragement of Lovers’ Vows we have been prepared to understand that she has clawed her way to significance through assuming a role in the economy of Mansfield Park. Mrs. Norris is a middle manager, a factory floor shift supervisor despised by both the owner (Sir Thomas) and the workers (Dick Jackson and his family). But in the chaos of the household absent Sir Thomas, she is doing the best she can. Like many middle managers (I am one myself) she can only act on her best understanding of the intentions of her superiors in relation to those she is managing—who are, at best, resentful, and at worse filled with enmity and contempt.
Mrs. Norris, like Tara Isabella Burton’s Fanny Price, is a victim of an unjust society: widowed, ill-educated, and requiring patronage to maintain her human dignity. If we would prefer that she be Miss Bates, powerless and ridiculed, existing solely on the basis of charity, what does that say about us? Mrs. Norris, given her limited opportunities, is as hard-working as any of Austen’s female characters.
Anyway, we can’t enjoy Mansfield Park without Mrs. Norris, as the earliest readers of the novel recognized. The distinguished literary critic and essayist Paul Fussell once told me that he’d “rather see people in fistfights than holding hands: it’s boring.” Mrs. Norris, may she rest in peace, provides us with the best fistfights of Mansfield Park, defending the indefensible, attacking the just, interfering when interference was least required—and, ultimately, left behind when both her superiors and her inferiors move along to the rest of their lives. Like a retired boxer with nothing left to do, poor Mrs. Norris is condemned by the novel that needs her to close confinement with her surrogate daughter Maria Rushworth. Used, tossed away. Don’t we all deserve better?
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Interesting take on Mrs. Norris! I have always felt that she starts out well, but, by sheer weight of her own words, ends up on the wrong end of each action. Thank you for this new insight into her character!
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Thank you for reading the piece!
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Great comparison to modern middle management! In her private moments, would Mrs. N., worn out w/ self-serving activities that no one appreciated, lie on a chaise lounge and have Fanny rub her temples w/ vinegar-as her sluggard sister Lady Bertram loved to do? Dr. Justice has brought a whole new perspective to a character we all love to hate!
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Thank you for your comment! Poor Mrs. N. would love that–but she’d complain about what a bad job Fanny was doing!
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I love a fabulous villain, but for me Mrs. Norris should come with a trigger warning. *shudder*
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LOL. But I would never put a trigger warning on Mansfield Park!
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This review was most interesting and certainly sheds a different light on Mrs. Norris… would love to be at a lecture of Prof. Justice and hear the discussion on this subject! This insight certainly helps one understand some reasons for her nastiness, and while children might have softened her, I can’t help but feel it is her innate selfishness and unkindness which is behind her needing her brother-in-law’s influence to even find a husband… and then to reject and dislike someone innately good as Fanny Price. But I am one of those who loves Fanny and Mansfield Park very much!
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Come out to ASU and take our course! Especially if you, like I, love Fanny Price!
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It’s amazing how much Austen could convey (“found herself obliged” and “to be attached”) with so few words.
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Mrs Norris was the sort of middle manager that no one would want to work for! She wasn’t kind or good, and didn’t have a clue what was really important. Miss Bates was both good and kind–she was only ridiculed by Emma because Emma was immature. For us readers though, they are both good for a laugh! They all have their cringe worthy moments, even Emma come to think of it. Thanks for the interesting post.
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I did enjoy this post and the angle. I am all for giving people the benefit of the doubt, although the Mrs. Norris types of this world have many opportunities to do so themselves and fail to learn the simple lessons of human kindness. Their poverty of spirit is more pathetic than whatever physical poverty they feel they must suffer. Thank you for pointing out the very real pathos in her expression: ‘I am of some use I hope in preventing waste and making the most of things.’ I almost felt sorry for her at that moment, until I was reminded that she used her ‘use’ in bullying, tyrannizing, and slyly manipulating those younger and more disadvantaged than herself.
I have to put a plug in for my favorite expression of the post– “a paucity of champions for Mrs. Norris”… so true and brilliantly phrased!
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Throughout Mansfield Park, I anticipated Mrs. Norris’s redemption but it never came. Always hoping for the best in people, I felt some pity for, oh, the briefest of moments. It is true that deep prolonged resentment can kill physically, mentally, and spiritually. Mrs. Norris is practically a walking dead person mentally and spiritually. Bitterness must have a target and poor gentle delicate Fanny is at the center of the bulls eye. Miss Austen brilliantly fashioned a character that we all loved to hate and the entertainment value in her behavior was morbidly hilarious for this reader. Just when you think she couldn’t get any worse she does, in contrast to Fanny, who ascends in goodness throughout. I identified with the quote from Paul Fussell. Having read Class, Bad, and Thank God for the Atomic Bomb, I appreciate his cynical pessimistic view of human behavior…….perfect for such a prickly character as Mrs. Norris.
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This argument basically defends Aunt Norris on the same grounds as Fanny was “defended” – they both are a product of their circumstances. Fanny, according to Ms. Burton, is only good because she’s forced to be. Aunt Norris, according to the inaptly named Mr. Justice, is only bad because she’s forced to be.
Horse___!
First, a minor point. The writer says that the description of Aunt Norris’s (then Miss Ward) acceptance of marriage with the Rev. Mr. Norris “signals the novel’s latent sympathy with the character.” I think that’s a highly debatable reading of the passage. In the first part of the paragraph we learn that many were expecting “Miss Ward and Miss Frances” to marry very well and, in the end those hopes were disappointed. That’s all the phrase “found herself obliged” means to me.
What is very clear is that Austen has a clear-eyed sense of justice, even toward Aunt Norris. When describing Fanny’s mother, Austen acknowledges that Mrs. Norris would have made a much more “respectable” homemaker on a limited budget than Fanny’s mother has.
Austen has no room for sentimentality – not the sentimentality that excuses bad behavior and not the sentimentality that assumes that even the worst villain doesn’t have some abilities and behaviors that we can legitimately respect – even the devil gets his/her due.
This post next presents two bad choices as the only choice open for conduct: either poor Mrs. Bates, who’s silly and dependent or Aunt Norris, who’s a tyro.
But, there are other choices. As it happens, Mrs. Grant moves into the exact same position Aunt Norris held for most of her life: a clergyman’s wife at MP. Mrs. Grant doesn’t command a great deal of attention in the novel, but is nevertheless referred to as having “a temper to love and be loved…the same happiness of disposition must in any place and any society, secure her a great deal to enjoy…”
Note also: Dr. & Mrs. Grant have no children so Mrs. Grant has been dealt the same “blow” by life that Aunt Norris has experienced.
The difference is, Mrs. Grant has not reacted to her situation with malice, especially toward those who didn’t create the situation and who are at her mercy, as Fanny is at Aunt Norris’.
Austen is clearly aware of grievous societal injustices and wants them put right, but does not think that excuses Aunt Norris’ self-aggrandizing behavior or hostility or Mrs. Bertram’s lazy self-involvement or the Bertram girls’ conceited sense of entitlement or Sir Bertram’s absentee approach to being a father, or Fanny’s mother’s carelessness in her marriage and inability to cope with her household.
This sort of one-note-the-patriarchy-made-me-do-it moralizing has been popular in academia for 30 or more years. There’s nothing new or insightful about it. In fact, it’s horribly reductive of human nature – something Austen never, ever was.
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Good points! 😉
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Well, that’s very genial of you!
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Oh, and note that Mrs. Grant has a self-indulgent, small-time tyrant for a spouse.
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Thank you for a provocative post on one of Jane Austen’s best characters. You write “Mrs. Norris, given her limited opportunities, is as hard-working as any of Austen’s female characters.” except that she is always either sending Fanny off on some task or complaining that Fanny has failed to ask for something to do. Mrs. Norris may be a victim of an unjust society, as is Fanny, but her reaction is totally different than Fanny’s. Mrs. Bennett has five daughters to marry. That does not make her lamentable. It’s the way she goes about it in such a loud, obvious fashion that opens her up to ridicule. Jane Austen often shows us people in difficult situations. What defines the character of these people is how they react. Fanny goes one way, Mrs. Norris another.
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This is well argued… thank you for the comment.
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I cannot see Mrs. Norris as a victim. Her income when she is obliged to attach herself to Mr. Norris is £1000/year, and when Mr. Norris detaches himself from her, she still has £600/year and no dependents. Thinking only of the financial aspects of this unjust patriarchal society, Mrs. Norris is wealthy, by Elinor Dashwood’s definition, and I cannot feel sorry for her on that account.
Society did not bless her with any natural significance, but it did give her the opportunity to make herself important to the parish of Mansfield by assisting the elderly and the ill, teaching the children and other acts of charity. Instead she actively opposed any “encroaching people” who might “get all they can” of her wealth or her sister’s. In her treatment of those below her in status, Mrs. Norris is never a victim, she is instead a perpetrator of economic and social injustice.
When Mary Crawford says of the people of Mansfield: “You have all so much more heart among you than one finds in the world at large” she is not of course speaking of Mrs. Norris. In terms of heart Mrs. Norris is just like Dr. Seuss’ Grinch, only I think her heart is 10 times too small.
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Very nicely argued. I wonder if we could expand the conversation (with Mrs. Norris as a focal point) into novelistic sympathy? Is it ethical to feel for (or feel with) “some” members of a novel’s community but not others? If the general drift of novelist writing, painting with a VERY broad brush, is to understand very complex societies with a hope of “doing better,” what does it mean to exclude various characters from the warm embrace of our readerly affection? If there are Mrs. Norrises in the world, what do “we” do with “them”?
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What to do with Mrs Norris?
Mrs. Norris’ great desire was to influence Sir Thomas’ major policy decisions, to be Sir Thomas’ adviser and confidant. Her last (and only, that we know about) bit of influence brought Fanny to Mansfield Park, installed her in the White Attic, and deprived Fanny of fire in her rooms. Mrs. Norris thought she instigated the rule that decreed Fanny was not the equal of her cousins, but at the time of the ball we realize (though Mrs Norris may not) that she failed to achieve Fanny’s inferiority.
Once Sir Thomas no longer wanted Mrs. Norris’ advice, she was reduced to bossing Fanny around and giving her headaches, but she could not subdue Fanny’s innate sense that because Fanny was a human being, she was worthy of, and entitled to, respect. Fanny treats Mrs. Norris with respect for no better reason than that Mrs. Norris is another human being; Mrs. Norris doesn’t give Fanny any other reasons to treat her with respect.
Norris was the name of a pro-slavery witness in a Parliamentary investigation into the genocidal conditions on slave ships. I think one way to “embrace” Mrs. Norris is to see her as a foil in the argument against slavery: that no human may enslave another human, because all humans are equal with respect to other humans. Some may be prettier, smarter, richer, or have a harp, but we are all equal under the ethic that says “do unto others as you would have them do unto you.”
I am sad when I read that Mrs. Austen, our Jane’s mother, “enjoyed” Mrs. Norris.
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Don’t feel sad! As readers we delight in well-written characterizations, whether of heroes or villains. I delight in Lovelace, or Humbert Humbert (Nabokov’s reimagining of Richardson’s great villain), even as I loathe them. Great literature isn’t only about the good. And it is not so simplistic as to set up merely abhorrent evil characters.
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I didn’t mean to be so grim! In the subtext of the novel that has to do with slavery, I guess I think Mrs. Norris does represent the slavers’ point of view. But there is also that scene in which she imagines herself running about the house informing everyone of Sir Thomas’ imagined death on the high seas, which is very childlike and human. And people do want to be important – that’s what make us achieve stuff. But I always cringe when I read her voice, if I can manage not to blip over it.
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The narrator suggests something respectable for Aunt Norris.
“Her [Mrs. Price] disposition was naturally easy and indolent, like Lady Bertram’s;… She might have made just as good a woman of consequence as Lady Bertram, but Mrs. Norris would have been a more respectable mother of nine children on a small income.” MP ch. 39.
Portsmouth house would have been much quieter.
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It’s funny — I feel no sympathy with Mrs. Norris and find her quite annoying, but she was willing to give everything up to help Maria Bertram (although, as our novelist points out, that probably didn’t turn out well). I actually find Mary Crawford more loathesome — perhaps because Mrs. Norris is who she is, and Maria does her best to cover up what she is? Thanks for your article.
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Thank you for reading!
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Mrs. Norris is the slave overseer on Bertram’s estate, the slave plantation in Antigua brought to England. She has no redeeming qualities. Her economy and industry might be used for the Price children, for whom a few hundred pounds would catapult into solid gentry. But her foolish devotion to the Bertram children, who neither need nor want her help, for the sake of impressing Sir Thomas, destroys even this virtue. Nothing she touches flourishes. She abuses other people’s servants as well as random children. She is thoroughly despicable, probably responsible for the breach with Mrs. Price in the first place, and perhaps the only Austen villain whom we are perfectly free to hate. (Even Lady Catherine had some redeeming qualities. Mrs. Norris has none.)
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I can’t agree. If she were just an interfering busybody, fair enough. But her relentless and entirely unprovoked bullying of Fanny, a vulnerable child, over years and years! The way she actively tries to prevent anyone else from being nice to her! It seems plausible that she brought Fanny to Mansfield for precisely that purpose, to have someone she can trample on to make herself feel bigger. She never misses an opportunity to humiliate her. Remember that she defines Fanny as being always and everywhere “the lowest and the last”. Remember that she even tries to blame Fanny for Maria’s adultery! No, no, what edge personal sorrows may be, it does not justify an adult woman for bullying a child.
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Mrs. Norris is not poor. She must have had a 7,000 dowry as did her sister Lady Bertram. This would give her an income of about 350 pounds a year. And the Parsonage at Mansfield Park would pay a good income (larger than Thornton Lacey which comes with an income over 700 pounds a year), and a nice home goes with the living at the Parsonage at Mansfield Park. There is a discussion between Lady Bertram and Mrs. Norris about how much a year Mrs. Norris saves when Mrs. Norris is complaining how poor she is and could never take in Fanny Price. Fanny Price or rather Fanny Bertram is very happy to live in the Parsonage and have the income of it with her husband Edmund Bertram when they move from Thornton Lacey to the Parsonage at Mansfield Park. With that income, one could have a carriage and servants and income left over. Mrs. Norris is never poor but she is miserly.
It is very pleasing to see Fanny supersede her mean Aunt Norris in the Parsonage after the Grants move out.
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