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Margaret C. Sullivan is the author of Jane Austen Cover to Cover and The Jane Austen Handbook. She wrote about “The Manipulations of Henry and Mary Crawford” for the celebration I hosted in honour of Mansfield Park, and I’m delighted to introduce her guest post for Emma in the Snow.
Maggie is the Editrix of AustenBlog.com, where she has been, in her words, “holding forth on Jane Austen and popular culture since 2004.” She recently flew across the United States in the teeth of a blizzard to see Love & Friendship, the upcoming adaptation of Austen’s Lady Susan, at the Sundance Film Festival. She says she didn’t meet anyone famous at the Festival, “not even Faux Bradley Cooper,” but she saw “lots of stunning snow-covered mountains, which was way better.” Love & Friendship received the Official AustenBlog Seal of Approval. Maggie blogs at This Delightful Habit of Journaling as well as at AustenBlog. Here’s a photo from her trip to Utah.
I came to Jane Austen later in life than many, in my late 20s—that is, seven or eight years older than Miss Woodhouse. The first Austen I read was Emma. I was in a mall drugstore, looking for something to read, when a remaindered copy of Emma caught my eye, marked down to $2. People had been telling me for years that I should read Jane Austen, and the price was right, so I bought the book.
Somehow I had it in my mind that Austen had been living and writing in the early 20th century about an earlier time period. When I reached the scene where the guests were arriving for the Westons’ ball at the Crown, in particular Miss Bates’ arrival and her monologue that filled several pages of the paperback, I was so taken with the scene I suddenly wanted to know more about the author. I flipped to the little author mini-bio at the front of the book, and was astonished to learn that Austen had lived in the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The humor and the brutally honest portrayal of the various characters felt very modern to me.
When Sarah asked me to participate in her “Emma in the Snow” event, that passage—Miss Bates’ monologue as she arrives at the ball—sprang to mind immediately, for lots of reasons. Because it was the first scene in Austen’s work that I remember absolutely loving as I read it; because it’s just darned funny; and maybe because I identify with Miss Bates a little bit, being a middle-aged spinster myself, and someone who, with the best of intentions, bores people at length about my odd interests like European royalty (and their tiaras … especially the tiaras) and tech devices and, oh yeah, Jane Austen. I suppose we’re all guilty, now and then, of saying “three things very dull indeed.”

“I shall be sure to say three dull things as soon as ever I open my mouth, shan’t I?” Illustration by C.E. Brock. (Source: Mollands.net)
But really there’s quite a lot going on in this short passage. On the surface it’s just hilarious, and the portrayal of Miss Bates as a garrulous middle-aged spinster is extremely fine, but there is more to it. Here is the passage, from Volume 3, Chapter 2 (Chapter 38), with apologies in advance for the length:
Miss Bates and Miss Fairfax, escorted by the two gentlemen, walked into the room; and Mrs. Elton seemed to think it as much her duty as Mrs. Weston’s to receive them. Her gestures and movements might be understood by any one who looked on like Emma, but her words, every body’s words, were soon lost under the incessant flow of Miss Bates, who came in talking, and had not finished her speech under many minutes after her being admitted into the circle at the fire. As the door opened she was heard,
“So very obliging of you!—No rain at all. Nothing to signify. I do not care for myself. Quite thick shoes. And Jane declares—Well!—(as soon as she was within the door) Well! This is brilliant indeed!—This is admirable!—Excellently contrived, upon my word. Nothing wanting. Could not have imagined it.—So well lighted up.—Jane, Jane, look—did you ever see any thing? Oh! Mr. Weston, you must really have had Aladdin’s lamp. Good Mrs. Stokes would not know her own room again. I saw her as I came in; she was standing in the entrance. ‘Oh! Mrs. Stokes,’ said I—but I had not time for more.”—She was now met by Mrs. Weston.—“Very well, I thank you ma’am. I hope you are quite well. Very happy to hear it. So afraid you might have a headache!—seeing you pass by so often, and knowing how much trouble you must have. Delighted to hear it indeed. Ah! dear Mrs. Elton, so obliged to you for the carriage!—excellent time.—Jane and I quite ready. Did not keep the horses a moment. Most comfortable carriage.—Oh! and I am sure our thanks are due to you, Mrs. Weston, on that score.—Mrs. Elton had most kindly sent Jane a note, or we should have been.—But two such offers in one day!—Never were such neighbours. I said to my mother, ‘Upon my word, ma’am⸺,’ Thank you, my mother is remarkably well. Gone to Mr. Woodhouse’s. I made her take her shawl—for the evenings are not warm—her large new shawl—Mrs. Dixon’s wedding-present.—So kind of her to think of my mother! Bought at Weymouth, you know—Mr. Dixon’s choice. There were three others, Jane says, which they hesitated about some time. Colonel Campbell rather preferred an olive. My dear Jane, are you sure you did not wet your feet?—It was but a drop or two, but I am so afraid:—but Mr. Frank Churchill was so extremely—and there was a mat to step upon—I shall never forget his extreme politeness.—Oh! Mr. Frank Churchill, I must tell you my mother’s spectacles have never been in fault since; the rivet never came out again. My mother often talks of your good-nature. Does not she, Jane?—Do not we often talk of Mr. Frank Churchill?—Ah! here’s Miss Woodhouse.—Dear Miss Woodhouse, how do you do?—Very well I thank you, quite well. This is meeting quite in fairy-land!—Such a transformation!—Must not compliment, I know (eyeing Emma most complacently)—that would be rude—but upon my word, Miss Woodhouse, you do look—how do you like Jane’s hair?—You are a judge.—She did it all herself. Quite wonderful how she does her hair!—No hairdresser from London I think could.—Ah! Dr. Hughes I declare—and Mrs. Hughes. Must go and speak to Dr. and Mrs. Hughes for a moment.—How do you do? How do you do?—Very well, I thank you. This is delightful, is not it?—Where’s dear Mr. Richard?—Oh! there he is. Don’t disturb him. Much better employed talking to the young ladies. How do you do, Mr. Richard?—I saw you the other day as you rode through the town—Mrs. Otway, I protest!—and good Mr. Otway, and Miss Otway and Miss Caroline.—Such a host of friends!—and Mr. George and Mr. Arthur!—How do you do? How do you all do?—Quite well, I am much obliged to you. Never better.—Don’t I hear another carriage?—Who can this be?—very likely the worthy Coles.—Upon my word, this is charming to be standing about among such friends!—And such a noble fire!—I am quite roasted. No coffee, I thank you, for me—never take coffee.—A little tea if you please, sir, by and bye,—no hurry—Oh! here it comes. Every thing so good!”
(This passage is a lot of fun to read aloud. I once did so for a book group to which I used to belong, with many dramatic flourishes. I hope they enjoyed it as much as I did. I was gasping for air at the end, too!)
Throughout the book, it feels like we’re supposed to feel sorry for Miss Bates. Mr. Knightley certainly means Emma to feel sorry for her—or at least feel compassion for her. However, here she is at a ball, not stuck at Hartfield with Mr. Woodhouse and her mother and unable to enjoy the yummy treats. Miss Bates has come to the ball to enjoy herself, and the enjoying starts the second she walks in. Frank Churchill has already expressed that sentiment: “though he did not say much, his eyes declared that he meant to have a delightful evening.” Miss Bates does not need her eyes to do any declaring; her mouth is more than up to the job.
She passes through the room and speaks to several friends: first Mrs. Stokes, “standing in the entrance”; Mrs. Weston, Mrs. Elton, Frank Churchill, Emma herself, Dr. and Mrs. Hughes, Mr. and Mrs. Otway, their (presumably) two daughters and two sons, the Coles are heard coming in and no doubt will be greeted in their turn, and Mr. Richard Hughes even leaves the young ladies to come over and pay his compliments. Such a host of friends! Such a noble fire! Tea, almost the instant she asks for it, though she was in no hurry for it! No wonder she exclaims, “This is delightful, is not it?” and “Every thing so good!”
There is so much consideration for her comfort. Mrs. Weston sent a note, offering to have their carriage pick up Miss Bates and Jane Fairfax; Emma and Harriet stopped to offer them a ride; the Eltons forgot them at first, but the carriage is immediately sent for them. Frank Churchill knows Miss Bates (and her charge) should not be forgotten, and waits with an umbrella. Her friends gather around her, and tea is brought. Ladies’ gowns and hair are admired with true enjoyment. She is very well, she assures each friend who asks how she does; quite well; never better.
Miss Bates is determined to have a good time, and determined to not let her circumstances get her down, and we can all learn from that. At middle age, life has passed her by. Did she ever have a lover, one wonders? Perhaps someone like Robert Martin, a yeoman farmer, not considered eligible for the vicar’s daughter (and, one notes, not invited to the ball, nor are his sisters, apparently), but who could perhaps have given the former Hetty Bates a comfortable home at least, and her mother and niece as well? A home where she might not be obliged to depend upon gifts of a hind-quarter of pork or a bushel of apples from neighbors, or even rides in their carriages? That is likely a subject that Jane Austen had meditated upon, having passed up such a home offered by Harris Bigg-Wither.
But Mr. Bigg-Wither was certainly of a social standing to be invited to balls given by his neighbors. Miss Bates may have had to give that up, if she “married down,” as Harriet Smith will have had to give up being visited by Miss Woodhouse (though perhaps not by Mrs. Knightley, not completely) when she marries Robert Martin. I wonder which of those choices Miss Bates would pick with the benefit of hindsight. No matter what it was, she would have made the best of it, and maybe that’s the message we’re supposed to take away from this.
Carpe diem, says Miss Bates. Live in the moment, and you will be quite well; never better. Even a middle-aged spinster can enjoy herself at a ball, writes (almost) middle-aged spinster Jane Austen. In 1813, not long before she started writing Emma, Austen wrote in a letter to her sister, “By the bye, as I must leave off being young, I find many Douceurs in being a sort of Chaperon for I am put on the Sofa near the Fire & can drink as much wine as I like” (6 November 1813). Or tea, one presumes.
I’m thrilled for Miss Bates and her enjoyment at the ball. Her arrival and conversation provide fun for the reader, but Jane Austen’s characters come so vividly to life that one cannot help but sometimes think of them as real people, and wonder about their inner lives. This scene is hilarious, but it also provides a different kind of enjoyment: that of knowing that Hetty Bates had at least one night in fairy-land. Don’t we all deserve that?
Quotations are from the Penguin edition of Emma, edited and with an introduction by Juliette Wells (2015), and the Oxford edition of Jane Austen’s Letters, edited by Deirdre Le Faye (4th edition, 2011).
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I thoroughly enjoyed this post, Margaret. I have always had a soft spot for Miss Bates too and find Austen’s creation of her voice ingenious. It’s wonderful to see her taking centre stage in this post. Thanks!
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It’s interesting, isn’t it, that Emma is the only novel in which Austen mentions the word fairy, and does it twice – in this passage, and when Emma says Mr. Elton’s charade was “drop’t, we suppose, by a fairy.” Perhaps Austen did have Midsummer Night’s dream on her mind! But Miss Bates has often seemed to me a bit like a dithery fairy godmother herself, we can almost picture her singing Bibbety-bobbety-boo. Coincidentally, like you, Margaret, Miss Bates got me started on this lifelong passion…I was so enchanted by her “rattle,” that my very first piece of Austenesque writing, a short essay in the style of Miss Bates, won a contest in Persuasions in 1985 – which gave me the confidence to persevere in that vein. Yes, a bit of a fairy godmother, Miss Bates, after all!
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Wonderful post! Modern neurological research shows an extremely strong correlation between happiness and gratitude. So, if we follow Miss Bates’ good example, science tells us our own lives will seem more like a fairy land too. Austen, wisely, picked up on all that long before brain science confirmed it.
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I enjoyed this post so much, including the story of how you got started on the road to Jane Austen. It’s been a long time since I read that passage, and I savoured every word. We can all only hope to be as content with everything as Miss Bates.
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My favorite character in any of the books! Wonderful post.
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Marvelous post, Maggie! Isn’t Miss Bates and her whirlwind of chatter an apt demonstration of happiness against the odds? Austen’s way of showing us this through her dialogue (monologue?!) is tour de force too. Enjoyed hearing about your quest through the Rockies to catch the first viewing of “Love and Friendship”. Can’t wait for Whit Stillman’s take on Lady Susan!
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As always, Miss Sullivan explains it for us most delightfully! Thanks, Mags.
I can only add that on my most recent rereading of Emma (in preparation for all the bicentennial excitement), one thing I realized for the first time was how aware Miss Bates really is of what’s going on in her world–sometimes more so than Emma herself. I’m thinking in particular of the chapter early in Vol. 2 when the news of Mr. Elton’s betrothal breaks, and Miss Bates lets on that she was aware of Mr. Elton’s intentions toward Emma in Vol. 1 well before Emma was. She’s no Sherlock Holmes, to be sure–but she’s not the dimwit Emma thinks she is.
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Hi Marie! I’m re-reading Emma right now, and I noticed that, too. One gets the impression that it was a general piece of Highbury gossip. Also Mr. Cole giving Mr. Knightley a “hint” of his suspected attraction to Jane Fairfax–I’m sure the ladies of Highbury were discussing that, too.
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Thank you, Maggie for drawing our attention to this delightful passage! It helps us celebrate the Miss Bates in all of us!
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Wonderful! The delight you took in this passage is probably not the usual first impression, but you are quite right. Miss Bates has few pleasures, but she gets the full enjoyment of each and every one. She has many friends, which is a wonderful thing, and except for one very bad afternoon, is never made to feel “less than” by her acquaintances.
I always loved that Miss Bates did not rush to assure Emma that no harm was done (other than polite murmurings at the moment), but let Emma see just how badly she had hurt her. And how undeserving she was of such treatment. This was a lesson for me in how to conduct oneself as a lady.
Miss Bates is one of the most interesting characters I think of when I think what I’d like to know more of in JA. Just what WAS her youth like? It’s not so very long ago that Emma looked up to her, so I think she must have been a delightful young lady whose fortunes withered on the vine when her father died. Having to look after her mother in much more straitened circumstances has certainly curtailed many pleasures for her, though you wouldn’t know it to hear her talk. I love Miss Bates!
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I have to say the first time I read it, I had the shallower first reaction to it–that it’s a really funny passage showing a silly character. It was with subsequent readings that I gained compassion for Miss Bates, and started seeing all her good qualities.
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Miss Bates is truly a wonderful creation and an excellent example of Austen’s great good judgment and talent. The accomplishment of Austen in Miss Bates, it seems to me, is that she combines what is ludicrous and silly, what is admirable, and what is pitiable. There is no sentimentality. A lesser novelist, wanting us to like Miss Bates might only play on pity or only show her unflagging positive outlook and might leave out her ludicrous qualities. Another lesser novelist, would only present her as a blabbermouth, loser spinster. Austen sees all three, creates all three, forcing the reader to come to terms with real, many-sided humanity – how what is good, what is not so good co-exist in the same person.
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Yes! Miss Bates is a bit of a mirror in which we see our own reactions to her, and compare her treatment at the hands of different people in Highbury as well.
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One of my strong impressions when I first read Emma was that Austen felt enough mastery of her work to take enormous risks. To insert such a tedious character as Miss Bates, she boldly challenged the patience of her readers and despite that won their attention and affection.
That impression still hangs in my mind confirmed as a strong opinion. She knew here metier, she knew the demands of her tale and she knew a Miss Bates was more than necessary to it.
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Thank you so much for a delightful and thoroughly satisfying post! I’m such a huge fan of Miss Bates – you’ve done her full justice.
She doesn’t care about power, or money, or social status. While others are concerned about precedence, or busy scheming, or carrying out petty vendettas, she reminds us of what truly matters: “Our friends are only too good to us. If ever there were people who, without having great wealth themselves, had every thing they could wish for, I am sure it is us.”
Just as willing to call on the Woodhouses as to visit John Abdy, who’s in need of poor relief, seeing the good in everybody and the magic in the everyday, she’s grateful, happy, and popular. IMHO it’s not Miss Bates herself but “her situation” that Mr Knightley thinks should elicit compassion.
Admittedly, “the good and the ridiculous are … blended in her” – isn’t that true of most of us? After all, “For what do we live, but to make sport for our neighbours, and laugh at them in our turn?” – I wish she could have had a good chuckle at Emma’s many blunders … 🙂
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Whoops! I’ve just misquoted from chapter XLIII. Emma’s exact words are: “What is good and what is ridiculous are … blended in her.”
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I have to say, I think Austen’s point is a bit more hard-headed than simply how sweet-tempered Miss Bates is. There’s no doubt that Austen means us to notice that Miss Bates’ positive, grateful attitude performs miracles in supporting her in very adverse circumstances. But, I also think we are supposed to notice that Miss Bates is performing this by completely closing her eyes — and that has drawbacks to the understanding.
No one denies that Miss Bates is not, in fact, the sharpest knife in the drawer and she talks endlessly. She is ridiculous and that kind of non-stop foolishness is annoying. Five minutes in, it’ll be easy to forget how sweet-tempered she is.
The challenge to Emma – and it is a challenge – is to be honest enough about the flaws she sees in Miss Bates AND maintain charity or at least civility. Miss Bates has the ability to not see quite a bit. Emma doesn’t have that option. She’s too bright, too quick, too strong. She can’t help but see. She misuses her powers dreadfully, heartlessly with Miss Bates, as Knightley rightly tells her.
Yes, we’re all a blend of the ridiculous and the good. Austen knows that better than most. She will not let us off easily with a sugared view of Miss Bates. Austen is, I think, urging us toward a clear-headed view of shortcomings coupled with forbearance and kindness.
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I agree: JA’s view of Miss Bates and poor spinsters in general is far from sugared. Mr Knightley describes her bleak prospects in no uncertain terms. But I don’t think she can afford to close her eyes: while her mother is “almost past everything but tea and quadrille,” she has to look after her and “make a small income go a long way.” The way in which she talks of the illness and poverty of her father’s former clerk would suggest she’s aware of what might one day happen to her, especially as she has no children. Yet somehow she chooses to hope – how else could she cope? And it’s worked for her so far …
I know she is “silly,” “prosing,” “undistinguishing and unfastidious.” As Emma puts it, “it was rather too late in the day to set about being simple-minded and ignorant,” but I sometimes feel that “to resemble” people like Miss Bates “would be more for our own welfare and happiness than all that genius or intelligence could do.”
Many may find her endless rattle hard to bear. But to me her inconsequential speeches are fascinating in their combination of relevant information and mundane detail – and of course JA handles it all masterfully. She must have realised how useful a sense of humour may turn out to be when it comes to exercising kindness and forbearance 🙂
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I don’t think people have been exclaiming Miss Bates to be nothing but sweetness and light. But sometimes, that side of her gets lost in the ridicule and tedium of listening to her talk (especially in the movie versions). For myself, I’m merely wanting to point out that she has a side that is dignified and gracious as she finds herself in a mostly untenable situation. That she is able to take care of her mother, entertain guests and share the meager treats in her larder without begrudging anyone a piece of cake, as well as see how ridiculous she is, at times, is almost heroic to me, and she does it with good grace. Yes, she doesn’t have Emma’s intelligence (nor her money, which would be much more useful to her), but she has the gift of truly appreciating the small treats she does have.
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Well said! I don’t think she quite realises how ridiculous she is – only that she’s not clever enough and might be a bit boring. 🙂
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Thanks, all, for the kind comments. Miss Bates is an excellent character in many ways–she’s amusing, yet not there solely to amuse us. She is an important part of the plot and of Emma’s growth. And Austen is certainly setting us up to laugh at Miss Bates and then maybe feel a little ashamed of ourselves, along with her heroine. There’s so much going on…it’s fun to dive in and really examine these small moments. Thanks again to Sarah for inviting me to join in for “Emma in the Snow!”
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That’s a great way of putting it, Maggie. She’s amusing, but that isn’t the only thing that’s going on here. Thank you so much for your wonderful post, and thanks to everyone for reading and commenting!
(Also, thanks for reporting back to us about Love & Friendship. I can’t wait to see it.)
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I’m really excited to hear what others think of L&F. Not much longer now!
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Miss Bates! I think she is a delightful addition to Highbury society. Having been the ‘resident spinster aunt’ for years, (I did not marry until 47), I sympathize with her situation, as well. Thanks for such a charming post.
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